Dating and Courtship: It’s Just Coffee
Posted by Hal and Melanie Young in Adult Sons, Boy's Purity, Courtship, Teens

“Hey, I’ve got some unexpected time free. Want to meet for coffee?” an adult young man texts an adult female friend.

“I’m not comfortable meeting guys like that. You need to talk to my father,” is the reply.

These two are on a different wavelength. Let’s peek into their heads for a moment. (No, we can’t read their thoughts, but this is what we’ve heard lots of them say privately…

Courtship Its Just Coffee

Guy: Hmmmmm. Got an extra hour here. No way to get any work done.  Hey, this isn’t far from Charity’s house. Maybe she’d like to meet for coffee or something. She seems like a nice girl, but I really don’t know her. It’d be nice to chat for a bit, see what she’s interested in. She could be a good friend, maybe even someone I could one day marry, but it’s way too early to think about that. “Hey, I’ve got some unexpected time free. Want to meet for coffee?”

Girl: Oh my! Oh my! It’s happened! I can’t believe Ty thinks I would date! What kind of girl does he think I am? I thought he believed in courtship, too! Well, Dad said if any guy tried to ask me out, to tell them to talk to him. “I’m not comfortable meeting guys like that. You need to talk to my father.”

Guy: Wha? It’s just coffee! Talk to her Dad? What am I supposed to say, “I’ve noticed your daughter is a girl and I’d like to talk to her?” It’s a little weird. I mean, I can’t tell him I want to marry her, when I don’t know her very well at all! If I was trying to win her hand in marriage, of course I’d talk to her dad, but I just wanted to chat! “Okay. Sorry. Didn’t mean to offend.”

Unfortunately for her, many godly, courtship-oriented young men will stop right here. They do not want to move toward any kind of romance before they know a girl as a friend. A godly young man told us recently, “I am not going to consider dating a girl before we’re friends. I want to really know she’s a Christian and what’s important to her.”

We’re concerned that many families don’t make any allowance for guy-girl friendship in their courtship model (and we know “courtship” can mean a wide range of things – see our post here). In fact, we’ve read an entire book arguing that friendships between guys and girls were somehow impure by nature. We disagree. We’d argue that friendship is one of the best foundations for marriage. That’s why we called our book, My Beloved and My Friend (from Song of Solomon 5:16).

But can’t you learn all you need to know in a group setting? – We don’t think so. We have friends who make this argument. We’d reply that you can learn a lot, but it will only be things the person wants to make public in that group. Maybe they have views that aren’t in style for that group (are groups of young people ever foolish, opinionated, unkind, or unbiblical?) Or frankly, maybe they’re conforming to the group to hide a rebellious attitude toward their parents’ teaching which they don’t want to reveal yet.

We expect most friendships to operate in that public space, especially for our younger children, but there really needs to be some private conversation before a relationship gains a formal status — even of “just” courtship. And we have to recognize, too, that as our children grow older and have their own lives as adults, it becomes more and more difficult to organize group activities around work and student schedules; it’s much easier to get a group of teenagers together than a gathering of twenty-somethings.

But, how can you protect your daughter? Ask some questions. “Who are you meeting, honey?” and later, “How did it go? What’d you guys talk about?” Encourage her not to think ahead too far. She might have to work to keep from building dream castles while they are building their friendship, but we believe it is doable.

So how’s a casual lunch or coffee different from dating? It depends on what you mean by dating – like “courtship,” the word has a bewildering mix of personal definitions. Mostly, it depends on the heart – is the intention to honor God, parents, each other in that meeting, in that relationship? Then does it matter if it’s called dating or courtship or whatever?

Remember, when you see a young man and young woman in the coffee house together, you can’t always see what’s going on. Maybe they’re in a torrid romance; maybe they’re co-workers waiting on a client; maybe they’re consulting on a community project. They might be “just friends,” or they might be working on something more. Maybe they’re just getting to know one another. We really don’t need to worry about it.

If we’ve raised our adult children right, can ‘t we trust them to come to us for advice and seek to do what’s right?

After all, it’s just coffee

Other Posts on Finding a Mate:

What in the World is Courtship (not a cookie cutter approach)?

Don’t Shut the Door Too Soon!

A Good Thing

Or, listen to our hourlong workshop, Dating, Courtship, and All That, for more on Christian liberty, common pitfalls, and practical encouragement.

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